Question Totally Anonymous Phone?

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Is there a way to make a phone completely anonymous?

It seems using that one Google phone, installing graphene OS, not putting in a sim card, and using tor app is the way to go?

Please help me figure out how to make a phone as anonymous as possible.
 

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Nitrophone its based on GrapheneOS , the camera and the mics and gyro sensor are removed physically also the wifi , its now one of the most secured phones .
 

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Could one remove the camera and mics and gyro sensors on a Google pixel? Aka diy lol.

Also, they removed wifi? How does that make things more anonymous? Wouldn't that make you rely on data to use things like signal?

Still checking it out, looking now.
 

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Because you put a anonymous prepaid data sim card , the gyro sensor can work like a mic because of that one . Signal and that phone its the best way , and when you at home Phone switch off only switch on i a big city never at a same place . Read what says Edward Snowden .
 

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You don't have to use a sim card, just use wifi and encrypted apps, with the appropriate permissions turned off. Wouldn't that make the gyro sensor not function then?

Definitely using airplane mode and a Faraday bag are key
 

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You can buy a google pixel 5 used for around $130. This can be flashed with Graphene OS and has a removable battery. As for a SIM card, there are a few service providers who don't do deep information checks. That means you can buy a fullz for around $15 and then sign up for that service provider under the fullz information with a prepaid loaded gift card. I would recommend taking the battery out of the phone while in your home town / home town radius area as well as a faraday cage phone bag to store it in to prevent cell tower triangulation and bluetooth tracking.

Mint Mobile is pretty easy to sign up for under fake information. Last time I tried they don't even verify any information.
 

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To clarify this isn't fully anonymous. Nothing is fully anonymous in theory. It just depends on your threat model and how much money your advisory is willing to spend to de-anonymize you.
If they're able to turn a part of your phone into a listening device then you're already fucked and there is no point in hyper-focusing on tiny details as it will take away focus on the obvious things that the government goes for. They aren't as smart as people make them out to be and if you're not worth millions of dollars worth of investigations then they aren't going to go for some crazy exploit and instead go for low hanging security fruit.
 

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If yuou develop your own standard of data transfer, encrypt it maybe then it could be... if the rest firmware related could be.
it simply cant be, You do connect, so your traced.
 

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Maybe you could just map out 4G / 5G cell towers. Then for each cell tower siphon electricity from a nearby powerline into a Rasberry Pi. The Rasberry Pis can connect to the service tower with an anonymously boughten SIM card and then when you connect on a phone just VPN / SSH into a random Pi you setup
 

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Why specifically a Pixel 5 and not later versions?
 

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That's the way I have heard over and over. Graphine is the way to go
 

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yes but arent those phone SIM only with no wifi?
 

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Such phones are arguably more secure than phones with wifi. That way your dumb ass can't hook the phone to home wifi or go surf free wifi in public places with security cameras. GSM data over anonymous pre-paid SIM in an anonymous phone is the most anonymous way to get online.
 

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Nah I think u should use Librem 5, I'm using it now and it's pretty good. Its only disvantage is this phone was installed PureOS - completely not a fork from Android or iOS. Librem 5 also has Kill Switch to automatically disconnect Wifi, Bluetooth, cellular signal, microphone & camera. Just use this if u want to protect your privacy
 

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Is it not true that someone smart could turn on your gps and ping you easily if you don't physically disable it? You can go to git-hub and pick a rew features and reflash it with only the few things you need. Theres usually 20 apps on a phone rthat can call, send a text, ping you and you can't disable them without rooting the phone and dissabling them will brick the phone. Im no cellular phone technician but that Ive been lead to believe
 

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Most people here seem to be thinking there are state level actors going after them, utilizing zero day exploits and some top tier hacking techniques. Forget about this stuff and focus on the basics that is frequently overlooked and easy to make a mistake over a longer period of time. Following a strict protocol is harder than it may seem.

Use a PIN/password. Never use a thumb print or face id or anything you can't take the fifth on.
Set aggressive locking timeouts, enable device wipe after unsuccessful PIN attempts. No online recovery methods.

Your business phone must be a burner, its purchase must be anonymous and can't be tracked to you. (no online purchases, buy in a pawn shop and pay cash. Do not use large denominations from an ATM, break them first.)
Never ever cross SIM from personal and business devices.
Turn your business phone only when it's required, then turn it off.
Do not turn your business phone at home or where you can be identified.
Do not carry your business and personal phone both turned on at the same time. Location and path patterns over time will tie them together.
Understand IMSI and IMEI. Every phone has an identifier (IMEI). Just getting new SIM is not enough, you can be tracked using IMEI over time and your previous phone numbers can be found and your network of contacts can be identified. Get new burner phone for every new big project (as a physical device) and destroy the old one. Destroy, not sell.
Use multiple physical devices to split networks and keep activities and associates isolated.
Use cellular data for Internet access, never home wifi. Disable wifi if you need to use the phone in range of your home wifi.
Do not use public wifi in places under video surveillance.

These are the baseline rules. If you don't follow them then there's no OS or VPN or anything that can protect you.
 
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