Need help convert bmk 5449-12-7 to free base A-oil

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bmk cas 5449-12-7 p2p +N-formylamphetamine + freebase +Amphetamine
I want to obtain amphetamine using this synthesis route. freebase - to amphetamine salt. 1 liter scale.
I want to make amphetamine from amphetamine free oil . thank you.
 
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Members of forum what is your yield when converting 5449 powder with phosphoric acid?
Lets say if using 100g or 1kg? how much p2p oil in ml do you yield?
Do you also get white sediment on the bottom when the conversion of 5449 to p2p is finished?
 

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From what you have already told me, it sounds like that white sediment is a powder that has been mixed with your B powder. I have had this before with P.
 

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Yes mate it really seems like that - the white sediment could be something they add to get more weight out
But I always thought people get like 60-70ml or more p2p from 100g of 5449
Now it doesnt seem like this is the truth maybe more people will give their experience and we can compare how much someone really yields
 

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Probably some sodium phosphates? Some less soluble sodium or phosphor salts that result from conversion is my guess, but just looking at the formulas ,I have never worked with this..yet.
 

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Is no one doing 5449 conversions anymore?
What are your yields from it?
And did anyone figure out better conversion ratios for bigger yield?
 

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@ChingShih hello my friend. it is hard to know what you mean without pictures
but my first attempt ever, i had a white salt coating on the bottom of my p2p.
this was because I had not taken into account the PH values.
my pH was so low that my mixer rod was completely dissolved.
therefore, it is very important that you always measure your pH.
if your ph is to low you need to add more bmk salt to the flask
if your ph is to high you need to add more acid
in subsequent attempts, I have not had this problem again
 
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the first 2 stages in this synthese Iam verry good today my p2p is very pure and my
N-formy is also great using amonium carbonate ( titrate ph7 )
dont use to much heat in stage 2 . after cooking for 14 hours .
I leth everything in the flask and leth it mix slowly for two weeks without heat
 

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That is a very good yield, well done. What temp are you cooking at? And how are you doing hydrolsis? HCL or Naoh?
 

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@oscar412 the last step is not working for me
 

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Whay did you get 75% yield om then
 
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I see. So he cannot get the hydrolsis to work. Just add naoh and water heat at 110 for 2 hours then extract woth dcm when it has cooled T0R
 

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