ASheSChem's Amphetamine Trials and Experiments

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After the first trials of P2NP, ( http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhn...d-help-for-a-p2np-method-first-try-pics.1316/ )

finally the following :)
for this first time, the idea is to respect each step of the video ( http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhn...of-amphetamine-from-p2np-via-al-hg-video.196/ )

I was very attentive, so I don't have time to take lots of photos, just a few


- Cutting of aluminum strips and then into "small squares". I put them in an electric coffee grinder and I "push" 12x. It was long and boring.
note: for the first test I simply took an old first price aluminum roll that was lying around...
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- 10gr P2NP + 100ml isopropanol + 50ml glacial acetic acid were heated until dissolved and set aside

- 50gr of caustic soda + 150ml H2O have been prepared and bottled in the fridge.

- 2gr of mercury with 20ml of 60% nitric acid, I didn't dare to stir too regularly because of the fumes, so it took longer than on the video.
30 or 40 minutes in all to obtain a clear yellow mercury nitrate liquid. I put this in an amber vial in the fridge.

- 5ml of mercury nitrate were added to the aluminum and 1L H2O, I mixed regularly..., the water became cloudy, then gray, the aluminum began to float.
but I let it continue, I wanted it to stop bubbling.... but almost all the aluminum melted, it never stopped.... I threw it all away.

- I start again, 5ml of nitrate of mercury were added to the aluminum and 1L H2O, I mixed regularly..., the water became cloudy, then grey, the aluminum began to float and I started filtering.
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- I put my bottle of N2PN in the balloon, it started to smoke even before I had time to put the condenser. it quickly heated up, I cooled it in a water bath with a few ice cubes but a few drops squirted out of the top of the condenser then it calmed down...
I put in the water, pull him back, try to coax him.. mixed... put it back in the water a bit when it swelled, then it started to bubble but stop swelling, I left it like that for a while, until until it stops making bubbles... we would have it that a little cement was in the mixture...
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- I filtered the mixture and added my caustic soda mixture

- after more or less 20min I had 2 coats, the upper one transparent

- I took with a syringe a maximum of this transparent liquid (ph 11) and put in a beaker

- I made a mixture of 20ml of acetone + 2 ml of sulfuric acid

- I had to put + - 13ml in my liquid to get to a ph of 6, a thick pasta is in the liquid
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- gravity filtration, it becomes magnificent cream
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- drying (still finishing)


A big thank you to all for introducing me to chemistry
 

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did you test it.....?
 

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shhttt ; it's not official yet, but I dried in fast mode 0.10gr
I just took 1 sniffs and a friend the rest (3x more than me; and he sent me a message of the night "10/10")

I really felt the effect and the taste of the speed/amphet
I was not excited/nervous but rather awake, attentive but at the same time I was a little high. I had a little trouble falling asleep
but it was a small dose... I'm curious to test it for a full evening
 

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Well...
It looks dry, it smells like the speed I know..
I produced a little too much compared to the theoretical yield...

I can just specify that I used 10gr of P2NP which was purified 2x
and that I rinsed the flask with the amalgam with a little alcohol to properly recover the flask and the sieve

is it possible? I have an impurity? need to more dry ?!

everything went perfectly otherwise...
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from 10 gm P2NP .. it is unexpected yield even you lose some in workup, need to dry more.
 

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I agree, needs more drying + acetone wash, i bet it’s gonna come off cloudy.
 

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Great job! But ...
No washing and recrystallizing? I'd definitely do that.
 

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I found this white paste so beautiful and perfect... I thought it was good to stop there xD

I just got home, and it has decreased, 9.6gr ... it continues to dry so

but you everybody think i need to wash with acetone?
i let more dry and after i should do this
 

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What you think is the familiar "speed" smell and taste are unfortunately the impurities, amphetamine sulfate smells like nothing and is extremely bitter.
I also see this in the photos, there is a slight eggshell tint in there, it needs to get out there in my opinion, do an A/B extraction and you will see what I mean. After this i do an acetone wash every time and it does no harm, quite the opposite...
In this state the powder also sticks together a bit, when it is clean it disintegrates to dust.

Edit: But still great work, congratulations!
 
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i don't have magnesium sulfate and dichloromethane for the A/B tek :(
more things to put on Santa's list ;)

just an acetone washing can be ok or... i need waiting Christmas ?^^
 

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Use petroleum ether, any gasoline mixture with low boiling point (40-60°C), look in the hardware store, the liter costs not so much. MgSO4 you get in the drugstore, look for epsom salt, also for little money, you just have to heat it in a coated pan at 250°C, that the crystal water evaporates, then you can use it.

The effort and money is worth it, believe me, you never want it any other way :D
You won't get it out that way, but if you have no other option, just do the acetone wash
 

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Honestly, you want to be sure to get all trace amounts of mercury nitrate out of there. Wash wash wash. Recryst or A/B.
 

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Recryst ? with isopropanol?
 

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I think ethanol is more suitable, right?
 

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no it's the problem :x
i dont have i don't have magnesium sulfate and dichloromethane for the A/B tek
I forgot to include this step :x
 

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Really nice job .

how long takes it from begin till end the production?
 

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thanks !
more or less 3 hours but I was slow ;)
 

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Well...
for the moment I just powdered the "pebbles" and continue to let it dry slowly...
the smell is starting to disappear, and it now weighs 8gr.

the solvents take longer than I thought to evaporate
 

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Oven 60°C..as an example...
 
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