Alpha-PVP synthesis (1-10kg scale). Complete video tutorial.

[Ukspice]

@William Dampier

Need help with measurements

Instead of using :Valerophenone
I will buy liquid : 2-Bromovalerophenone

If I want to use 1litre

2-Bromovalerophenone​

What is the reagents amount I will need per I litrre:


-Hydrobromic acid (HBr) 48%;?

-Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) 35%;?

-Pyrrolidine (CAS 123-75-1);???

-Ethyl acetate ;???

-Sodium carbonate (Na2CO3) 20% aq solution;???

-Diethyl ether (Et2O) ????

-EtOH 50 ???

-Dibenzoyl-D-tartaric acid ??

-Dichloromethane (CH2Cl2) 830 mL;

-Hexane ????

Hydrochloric acid conc. 35% (HCl);.??

WOULD REALLY HELP IF YOU CAN GET ME MEASUREMENTS FOR USE OF 1 LITRE 2-BROM. PLEASE?????

So that I can cost per reaction, also is the yield estimate about 20% loss
1 litre = 800g a-pvp?

 

[Marvin "Popcorn" Sutton]

I wrote you a PM.

 

[Taiwan]

Hi, I have the same problem, can you help?

 

[jager_17]

same story, can you help?

 

[viking1111]

Hello i have little problem, for 25k 2bromovalero i use to crysyalization after pirolidyne and after washing, i use to crystalization 1,5l aceton to 0,38 acid per 1kg bromo, but liquid to crystalization i take 1l and make ph 2 with mixture of aceton and acid, after 10h in freezer nothing happend (it was mixing 4 hours with pirolidyne on temp 55) what i did wrong and how to fix it?

 

[Marvin "Popcorn" Sutton]

I suggest we go to private messages and discuss the details with synthesis.

 

[Taiwan]

Hi, I have the same problem, can you help?

 

[TERMOBAR]

Good evening, excuse me, can I ask you for help? I made a synthesis of Alfa pvp based on this recipe https://bbforum.eu/tags/a-pyrrolidinovalerophenone I did everything as described, except for distilling ethyl acetate, I brought the acidification to 5, put it in the freezer, and the salts did not fall out, how can I fix the situation?Next, I evaporated the solution to 1/2 at a temperature of 74-77 and put it in the freezer again and all without result, maybe someone has encountered this?Please help me!

 

[WillD]

If there is acid, you need to evaporate at low temperature or under vacuum. You can get the remains like black resin. You must use chemically pure dry acetone to crystallize this. If it is household acetone, then there may be problems. In addition to acetone, there is also a purifying method if you can get the resin and dissolve it in water. Extract the water with a solvent from impurities and crystallize the product from an aqueous solution when cooling.

 

[CalvinCandy]

Did you do it like the video?

 

[TERMOBAR]

Good day, thank you for your help, everything worked out for me, the whole problem, as I understand it, was in ethyl acetate after its complete spoilage and dilution with dry acetone, I was re-acidified and then the salts fell out.

 

[Skurczolo]

It's me again. I got successfully synthesized a-pvp hydrochloride, and now I want to try making a-pihp using hexanophenone. Shall I bromine it to a-bromo-n-hexanophenone ? with the same techniques as with valerophenone ? Are there any tips before I give try, or maybe it's as "simple" as with valerophenone?

 

[WillD]

The synthesis is almost identical (you need to change the proportions a little). But the main problem may be with crystallization.

 

[Xtrembendion]

Hello , when adding pyro (265gr)into 2bromo (300gr+1080gr EA)temperature stays 25 celsium also no color change.Does that mean there is no reaction at all?

 

[WillD]

If this happens, it is advisable to heat the RM for the required time (at 40-60*C)

 

[xirmsx12]

Does anyone know how to synth MDPV? Is it just Apvp done with methylamine? I have made both aphp and apvp but never mdpv and would like to know if I could go from 2-bromovalerophenone to MDPV or is the process completely different

 

[WillD]

No, this is an aromatic ring with a dioxol group (as mdma)

 

[Win Win]

This better then 4mmc?

 

[HIGGS BOSSON]

a-PVP strong stimulant like meth

 

[Win Win]

If compare with 4mmc which one better?

 

[Win Win]

Is it a-pvp like mdma?

 

[HIGGS BOSSON]

It is different subtances. 4-MMC like MDMA, a-PVP like methamph

 

[Win Win]

Understand thank you sir

 

[darkcider]

Need help. having trouble with this synth. i have completed steps described verbatim.
During animation stage when i add the pyrro no i get no reaction.the RM stays at 25C and does not change color. Nor does it become self heating and no smoke is produced.
heated RM to 45C for reaction duration as suggested in comments. then mixture becomes self heating.
But the color does not saturate. the resulting top layer is clear with a neutral ph.
Bottom layer is a clear yellow & looks to be mostly EA. A-bvp was sourced via Chinese vendor from the forum.
Everything else used is verified. only thing is i did not distill EA.
Thanks in advance

 

[darkcider]

Need help. having trouble with this synth. i have completed steps described verbatim.During animation stage when i add the pyrro no i get no reaction.the RM stays at 25C and does not change color.Nor does it become self heating and no smoke is produced. So, heated RM to 45C for reaction duration as suggested in comments. then mixture becomes self heating.
But the color does not saturate. the resulting top layer is clear with a neutral ph. Bottom layer is a clear yellow & looks to be mostly EA. A-bvp was sourced via Chinese vendor from the forum.Everything else used is verified. only thing is i didn't distill EA.\
Thanks in advance