I've been trying to find a proper a-pihp supplier since its ban, and china one was something else probably(a-d2pv), or perhaps somebody can confirm which is the proper precursor for it and if its the same syntetys like at a-pvp with valephenone, and if so can you provide a proper supplier for the precursor? I've been looking far and wide without any success. Thank you!
Question Looking for a vendor A-pihp help please
- Thread starter Prekzursil
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It would be great if I can get some advice to get from deoxybenzoin + pyrrolidine to alpha-D2PV?
- By loadingST
I dont know the building block but if its 5 chain with deozynenzoin as starting block, get valeryl chloride, alcl3 prepare the FC and you got your ketone.
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- By LabPsycho
Ok, you don't know deoxybenzoin? That kind of stuff is high school chemistry and so common. I just sometimes get little "careful" with this kind of reply. Combine the valeryl chloride to deoxybenxoin's what? Friedel-Crafts to those, Ok. I think I'm little worried about something here ... But have a nice day, and be good!
- By loadingST
Haha i havent worked with this chem i can check fast but really not intrested much, combine the desoxybenzoin with alcl3 you can use dce as solvent, and drip slowly valeryl chloride, prepare a ice bucket with hcl acid and pour the reaction when ready, ketone is usualy on high purty directly afther destroying the lewis acid complexx, but of corse fraction or simple distilation is preffered to obtain 99% ketone.
hehh. But seriously, is a-D2PV worth the work? Have you tested or some friend tested it? Is it good I mean.
The a-D2PV is no good. Even one experience "report" and one rating on some RC site was enough.
But this a-PiHP has been the best RC, or closest to good speed sulfate in my opinion. But I haven't tried many PV's. Just old days ethylphenidate + benzos.. etc. Would it be OK, to try to make it via benzaldehyde and N-isohexyl pyrrolidine, or does it even work like P2NP, witch I have none experience, but know the route. I have been thinking is it possible to make like commercial N-ethylpyrrolidine combined with benzaldehyde to make a-PPP (desoxy..or smthg)... funny ideas but is there any reality in these dreams?
But this a-PiHP has been the best RC, or closest to good speed sulfate in my opinion. But I haven't tried many PV's. Just old days ethylphenidate + benzos.. etc. Would it be OK, to try to make it via benzaldehyde and N-isohexyl pyrrolidine, or does it even work like P2NP, witch I have none experience, but know the route. I have been thinking is it possible to make like commercial N-ethylpyrrolidine combined with benzaldehyde to make a-PPP (desoxy..or smthg)... funny ideas but is there any reality in these dreams?
- By loadingST
I dont think any pyro can be any good or even close to speed but when you saying ok haha, and you really have no idea abaut how to make this compound, for isohexanophenone analogs, again you need tk go via FC mostly and use isohexanoyl chloride and the benzene with lewis acid, the henry condensation dont work that way you thinking.
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- By LabPsycho
I am just constantly wondering what kind of different amino acids you can do condensation with benzaldehyde to produce a-methyl beta-OH phenylethylamines (ephedrine "analogues"). For example PPA is known procedure even in here it has own recipe, that follows the same routine but different variations in here. If you are familiar with the PPA procedure from l-alanine and benzaldehyde, or that original Akabori-Momotani-reaction, replacing alanine with N-methylalanine + benzaldehyde to produce pseudoephedrine and ephedrine, can you show some light to me in the dark corners of interesting chemistry? I just want to know can you replace toluene (sciencemadness procedure?) or DMSO (in BB-Gate procedure) with xylenes? Or is the toluene/DMSO also a reagent or catalyst besides strightly a solute?
- By LabPsycho
You said that pyrrolidines can't be as good as good speed. I agree with you BUT not with
a-PiHP. Me, and my friends who don't use pyrrolidines or other cathinones said that this is like good speed (and I told them I cut it to around 30-33%). So, I was in need for some good amphetamine in ... it was... around 2015, and in the streets there where just those who used that a-PVP and I stayed away from them (irresponsible users ...) for my own safety and the streets were full of just VERY impure "speed". I placed an order, and tested it. I was surprised, because I've tested a-PVP and it is NOT as good as.. let's say 20-30% "pure" amphetamine that is the best speed I could buy then. a-PiHP was totally different because the effects lasted almost as long as amph, and the overall feeling was same. Little different but same. a-PiHP was tested to be the strongest dopamine releaser or inhibitor of all tested cathinone analogues, and I can agree with that. But enough with those cathinones. I'm not so much of a fan of them.
a-PiHP. Me, and my friends who don't use pyrrolidines or other cathinones said that this is like good speed (and I told them I cut it to around 30-33%). So, I was in need for some good amphetamine in ... it was... around 2015, and in the streets there where just those who used that a-PVP and I stayed away from them (irresponsible users ...) for my own safety and the streets were full of just VERY impure "speed". I placed an order, and tested it. I was surprised, because I've tested a-PVP and it is NOT as good as.. let's say 20-30% "pure" amphetamine that is the best speed I could buy then. a-PiHP was totally different because the effects lasted almost as long as amph, and the overall feeling was same. Little different but same. a-PiHP was tested to be the strongest dopamine releaser or inhibitor of all tested cathinone analogues, and I can agree with that. But enough with those cathinones. I'm not so much of a fan of them.
- By loadingST
Why you think im thinking you dont know shit haha, i see you are so much capable of doing things haha, and i dont get the joke from you abaut FC procedure and cathinones synthesis, but of course there is grignard, L-PAC route, and even calcium salts destructive destilations for these ketones, and i even maybe can miss something haha.
