Črni katran iz surovega opija

[G.Patton]

Imate prav. Za acetiliranje morfina lahko med 5 in 6 koraki dodate ocetni anhidrid. Prilagodite pH ~3 in po enournem mešanju nevtralizirajte na pH ~5,5-6 z natrijevim bikarbonatom.

 

[Nikolas]

Pozdravljeni J. Patton, Hvala za vaš lep članek. Ali ste ta izdelek samo sintetizirali iz posušenih makovih strokov? Pri sintezi ni bil uporabljen opij?

 

[Nikolas]

Da, temu izdelku pravim opij... vendar ste uporabili samo suhe kapsule v strokih, ali imam prav?

 

[G.Patton]

Ta metoda je napisana za proizvodnjo črnega katrana. Heroin lahko izdelate iz lateksa, črni katran pa je veliko slabši izdelek.

 

[Nikolas]

Hvala za razlago

 

[Nikolas]

Za prevajanje besedil uporabljam program Translite. Ali mislite limonin sok, citronsko kislino? Ali pa uporabljate naravni limonin sok? Kaj mislite s pojmom limonin sok?

 

[G.Patton]

Limonin sok pomeni tekočino, ki jo iztisnemo iz limoninega sadeža.

 

[Zippy53]

Sledil sem zelo enostavnemu in dobro opisanemu receptu in uspel pridobiti zelo lepo dimljivo kroglico surovega opija ... Hvala gospodu Pattonu za enostavna navodila!
Ali imate kakšne izkušnje z uporabo ekstrahirane opijeve gume in izdelavo morfina hcl?

 

[Dr.Mirakulix]

Lepo! Koliko maka ste uporabili?

Obstaja dokument, v katerem je postopek izolacije morfija iz surovega opija (in tudi nadaljnje predelave in rafiniranja za pridobitev precej visokega odstotka heroina), kot ga izvajajo afganistanski pridelovalci maka, zelo dobro dokumentiran in razložen.
Sam tega še nisem poskusil, vendar bom to zagotovo storil v naslednjih nekaj tednih. Morda se lahko oglasi še kdo drug in pove kaj o tem, ali in kako je mogoče zmanjšati tehniko ekstrakcije, da bi ustrezala majhnemu pridelku opija iz domače pridelave ali podobno.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Nice post! Awesome simple little heroin tek.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Osebno bi me zelo zanimalo, če bi se s tem prevodom seznanil. To bi zame rešilo VELIKO težav. To izgleda in zveni odlično @Zippy53! Ali lahko vprašam, ali ste osebno nadzorovali gojenje ali kako je mogoče pridobiti surovine? Živim v severnem podnebju, natančneje v bližini Bostona - ne domnevam, da jih je mogoče sezonsko gojiti na prostem? Za gojenje marihuane imam LED luč ali dve, to ne bi smelo biti problem imeti mak ali dva v omari? Koliko časa traja od kalitve do žetve? Ali obstaja zanesljiv prodajalec semen v sredini? Verjetno lahko najdem informacije za gojenje na erowidu, če ne tukaj...
Vnaprej se vam zahvaljujem za razvedrilo mojih neumnih vprašanj. Z najboljšimi željami.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

To answer some my own naive questions. Poppies grow just fine in northern climates, some even prefer. Seeds which can be acquired in abundance, grocery store variety are active but weak, better strains can be found online, can be cast effortlessly and without much care onto loose soil almost anywhere during autumn or early spring and these things will grow. Indoors works but outdoor is better - you need alot more than 1 or 2. It only takes 2-3 months from start to finish. If sewn in autumn, they hibernate of course.

 

[Chemtrail]

Swim absolutely loves this science article !!!!

question, what would happen if the temperature where to go above 60 C ???

What do you mean by "activate' ???

 

[mewnmewamine]

Im assuming he means they will decompose but id like to see a source because those temps sure as shit aint true they're wayyyy too low and you can literally smoke morphine! Like thats what he is suggesting you do anyway ^^
on top of that morphine can be purified by sublimation at 190°C lol
So do not worry about the heat
(0-o)

 

[Chemtrail]

Swim looked up on a search engine " codiene activates 68 celsius "

... The author of this BB post isn't talking about a CYP2D6 enzyme of metabolism? Lol

But got this : What temperature does codeine degrade?

As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.

Concentrations of the Opium Alkaloids Morphine, Codeine, and Thebaine in Poppy Seeds are Reduced after Thermal and Washing Treatments but are Not Affected when Incorporated in a Model Baked Product - PMC

Limited information exists on the effectiveness of potential treatments to reduce levels of opium alkaloids that may be present in seeds from poppy (Papaver somniferum L.). Poppy seeds containing morphine at relatively lower (14.7 mg kg−1) and ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

HERE'S FROM THIS SCIENCE ARTICLE:
"The results from the heat treatment experiments indicated that the three major opium alkaloids are relatively stable. At 120 °C, minimal, if any, alkaloid degradation was observed after 120 min. With the experimental temperature at 200 °C, the half-life of morphine and codeine was found to be approximately 32–39 min, while thebaine was only 3 min. As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.30 Use of heat treatments in this range of temperatures to promote opium alkaloid degradation would not likely be useful, as they will likely affect the sensory aspects of poppy seeds."

***THIS SCIENCE ARTICLE ALSO ILLUSTRATED THAT THERE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE OPIUM ALKALOIDS IN POPPY SEEDS ! ***

Swim used a search engine "morphine activates 82 C"

The author of this BB post isn't talking about "a signal on a G protein cascade " ? Lol

But got this : What temperature does morphine break down?

As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.

Concentrations of the Opium Alkaloids Morphine, Codeine, and Thebaine in Poppy Seeds are Reduced after Thermal and Washing Treatments but are Not Affected when Incorporated in a Model Baked Product - PMC

Limited information exists on the effectiveness of potential treatments to reduce levels of opium alkaloids that may be present in seeds from poppy (Papaver somniferum L.). Poppy seeds containing morphine at relatively lower (14.7 mg kg−1) and ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

*∆ Great Link about Poppy Seeds !

 

[Chemtrail]

Effect of thermal treatment on opium alkaloids

(See chart in attachment)