Black tar from opium raw

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You are right. You may add Acetic anhydride between 5-6 steps to acetylate morphine. Adjust pH ~3 and, after one hour stirring, neutralize to pH ~5.5-6 by sodium bicarbonate.
 
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Hi J. Patton, Thanks for your nice article. Did you just synthesize this product from dried poppy pods? Opium was not used in the synthesis?
 
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Yes, I call this product opium.. but you only used dry capsule pods, am I right?
 

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This method is written for a black tar production. You can make heroine from latex, black tar is much poor product.
 

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Thanks for the explanation
 

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I use Translite to translate texts. Do you mean lemon juice, citric acid? Or do you use natural lemon juice? What do you mean by lemon juice?
 

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Lemon juice is mean a liquid, which is squeezed from lemon fruit.
 

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I followed the very easy and well outlined recipe and was able to extract a very nice smokeable ball of raw opium...Thank you Mr Patton for the easy to follow instructions!
Now, do you have any experience taking the extracted opium gum and creating morphine hcl?
 

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Nice! How many poppies did you use?

There's a document in which the process of isolating Morphine from raw Opium (and also further processing and refinement to get pretty high percentage Heroin) as it's done by Afghani poppy farmers is documented and explained very well.
I haven't tried it myself yet, but definitely will do in the next few weeks. Maybe someone else can dial in and say something about if and how it's possible to scale down the extraction technique to fit a small opium yield from a home grow or the like. 🤔
 

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I would be very interested in seeing this one out personally. This would solve ALOT of problems for me. That looks and sounds great @Zippy53 ! May I ask did you oversee the cultivation personally or how can one source the raw materials? I live in a northern climate, near Boston specifically - I don't suppose these can be grown outdoors seasonally? I have an LED light or two for growing marijuana, this shouldn't be a problem to have a poppy or two in the closet? How long does it take from germination to harvest? Is there a reliable seed vendor in the midst? I can probably find information for cultivation on erowid if not here...
Thank you in advance for entertaining my silly questions. Best wishes.
 

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To answer some my own naive questions. Poppies grow just fine in northern climates, some even prefer. Seeds which can be acquired in abundance, grocery store variety are active but weak, better strains can be found online, can be cast effortlessly and without much care onto loose soil almost anywhere during autumn or early spring and these things will grow. Indoors works but outdoor is better - you need alot more than 1 or 2. It only takes 2-3 months from start to finish. If sewn in autumn, they hibernate of course.
 

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Swim absolutely loves this science article !!!! 🤩

question, what would happen if the temperature where to go above 60 C ???

What do you mean by "activate' ???
 

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Im assuming he means they will decompose but id like to see a source because those temps sure as shit aint true they're wayyyy too low and you can literally smoke morphine! Like thats what he is suggesting you do anyway ^^
on top of that morphine can be purified by sublimation at 190°C lol
So do not worry about the heat
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Swim looked up on a search engine " codiene activates 68 celsius "

... The author of this BB post isn't talking about a CYP2D6 enzyme of metabolism? Lol

But got this : What temperature does codeine degrade?

As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.

HERE'S FROM THIS SCIENCE ARTICLE:
"The results from the heat treatment experiments indicated that the three major opium alkaloids are relatively stable. At 120 °C, minimal, if any, alkaloid degradation was observed after 120 min. With the experimental temperature at 200 °C, the half-life of morphine and codeine was found to be approximately 32–39 min, while thebaine was only 3 min. As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.30 Use of heat treatments in this range of temperatures to promote opium alkaloid degradation would not likely be useful, as they will likely affect the sensory aspects of poppy seeds."

***THIS SCIENCE ARTICLE ALSO ILLUSTRATED THAT THERE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE OPIUM ALKALOIDS IN POPPY SEEDS ! ***

Swim used a search engine "morphine activates 82 C"

The author of this BB post isn't talking about "a signal on a G protein cascade " ? Lol

But got this : What temperature does morphine break down?

As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.


*∆ Great Link about Poppy Seeds !
 

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Effect of thermal treatment on opium alkaloids

(See chart in attachment)
 

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