Melnā darva no opija izejvielām

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Jums ir taisnība. Lai acetilētu morfīnu, starp 5-6 soļiem var pievienot etiķskābes anhidrīdu. Noregulējiet pH ~ 3 un pēc stundas maisīšanas neitralizējiet līdz pH ~ 5,5-6 ar nātrija bikarbonātu.
 
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Sveiki, J. Patton, Paldies par jauko rakstu. Vai jūs tikko sintezējāt šo produktu no kaltētām magoņu pākstīm? Vai sintēzē netika izmantots opijs?
 
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Jā, es šo produktu saucu par opiju... bet jūs taču izmantojāt tikai sausas kapsulu pākstis, vai man taisnība?
 

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Šī metode ir rakstīta melnā darvas ražošanai. Heroīnu var izgatavot no lateksa, melnais darva ir daudz nabadzīgāks produkts.
 

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Paldies par skaidrojumu
 

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Tekstu tulkošanai izmantoju Translite. Vai jūs domājat citronu sulu, citronskābi? Vai arī jūs izmantojat dabīgo citronu sulu? Ko jūs domājat ar citronu sulu?
 

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Citronu sula ir šķidrums, kas tiek izspiests no citrona augļiem.
 

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Es ievēroju ļoti vienkāršo un labi izklāstīto recepti, un man izdevās iegūt ļoti jauku kūpošu neapstrādāta opija bumbu... Paldies Pattona kungam par viegli izpildāmo instrukciju!
Vai jums ir kāda pieredze, izmantojot ekstrahēto opija gumiju un gatavojot morfīna hcl?
 

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Jauki! Cik daudz magoņu jūs izmantojāt?

Ir dokuments, kurā ļoti labi dokumentēts un izskaidrots morfīna izdalīšanas process no neapstrādāta opija (un arī turpmākā apstrāde un rafinēšana, lai iegūtu diezgan augstu heroīna procentuālo daudzumu), kā to dara afgāņu magoņu audzētāji.
Es pats to vēl neesmu izmēģinājis, bet noteikti izmēģināšu tuvāko nedēļu laikā. Varbūt kāds cits var piezvanīt un pateikt kaut ko par to, vai un kā ir iespējams samazināt ekstrakcijas tehniku, lai tā atbilstu nelielai opija ražai no mājas audzētavas vai tamlīdzīgi. 🤔
 

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Es personīgi būtu ļoti ieinteresēts, lai šis tulkojums tiktu izdots. Tas man atrisinātu VISAS problēmas. Tas izskatās un izklausās lieliski @Zippy53! Vai es varu jautāt, vai jūs personīgi pārraudzījāt audzēšanu vai kā var iegūt izejvielas? Es dzīvoju ziemeļu klimatā, konkrēti netālu no Bostonas - es nedomāju, ka tos var audzēt ārā sezonāli? Man ir LED gaisma vai divas marihuānas audzēšanai, tam nevajadzētu būt problēmai, lai skapī būtu magones vai divas? Cik ilgs laiks paiet no dīgšanas līdz ražas novākšanai? Vai ir kāds uzticams sēklu pārdevējs pa vidu? Es droši vien varu atrast informāciju par audzēšanu erowid, ja ne šeit...
Jau iepriekš paldies par maniem muļķīgajiem jautājumiem. Ar laba vēlējumiem.
 

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To answer some my own naive questions. Poppies grow just fine in northern climates, some even prefer. Seeds which can be acquired in abundance, grocery store variety are active but weak, better strains can be found online, can be cast effortlessly and without much care onto loose soil almost anywhere during autumn or early spring and these things will grow. Indoors works but outdoor is better - you need alot more than 1 or 2. It only takes 2-3 months from start to finish. If sewn in autumn, they hibernate of course.
 

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Swim absolutely loves this science article !!!! 🤩

question, what would happen if the temperature where to go above 60 C ???

What do you mean by "activate' ???
 

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Im assuming he means they will decompose but id like to see a source because those temps sure as shit aint true they're wayyyy too low and you can literally smoke morphine! Like thats what he is suggesting you do anyway ^^
on top of that morphine can be purified by sublimation at 190°C lol
So do not worry about the heat
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Swim looked up on a search engine " codiene activates 68 celsius "

... The author of this BB post isn't talking about a CYP2D6 enzyme of metabolism? Lol

But got this : What temperature does codeine degrade?

As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.

HERE'S FROM THIS SCIENCE ARTICLE:
"The results from the heat treatment experiments indicated that the three major opium alkaloids are relatively stable. At 120 °C, minimal, if any, alkaloid degradation was observed after 120 min. With the experimental temperature at 200 °C, the half-life of morphine and codeine was found to be approximately 32–39 min, while thebaine was only 3 min. As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.30 Use of heat treatments in this range of temperatures to promote opium alkaloid degradation would not likely be useful, as they will likely affect the sensory aspects of poppy seeds."

***THIS SCIENCE ARTICLE ALSO ILLUSTRATED THAT THERE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE OPIUM ALKALOIDS IN POPPY SEEDS ! ***

Swim used a search engine "morphine activates 82 C"

The author of this BB post isn't talking about "a signal on a G protein cascade " ? Lol

But got this : What temperature does morphine break down?

As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.


*∆ Great Link about Poppy Seeds !
 

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Effect of thermal treatment on opium alkaloids

(See chart in attachment)
 

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