The Big List of Excuses- legal uses for chemicals

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In which European countries is p2np illegal? Can you give links to confirm it?
 

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sorry, my mistake, I can not find the information.
I search for it a wile ago, and then it says control substance.
Maybe this was a specific cas nr don't know anymore .
 

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P2NP is really only used for the production of amphetamine, it is not used in other areas. However, on its own it has no psychoactive properties. So although it is legal in most of the world, it is closely monitored.
 

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You mean to say P2NP is NOT illegal, right? Such a big difference for such a little word ...
And I think you're wrong. From what I've heard from good sources there's actually no such thing as an unwatched chemical. Any chemical order that arises suspicion of illegal activity is subject to inquiry of some sort. If it's noticed. But in a stream of millions of packages going back and forth within economic areas one small package runs a very little risk of detection. Has happened to me once though. Not very pleasant.
 

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You can use P2NP as analytical standard and nitro-lacquers producing
No, P2NP is legal in US and EU, he didn't make mistake.
 

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Uh? He said P2NP is ILLEGAL. So that was a mistake, no?
 

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sorry for misunderstanding, finally - L E G A L (legal) :)
 

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Yeah, it's actually quite strange that it's not on the list of narcotic precursors in many countries. P2P is there, PMK is there, goddamn Glacial Acetic Acid and sulphuric acid is there - but not P2NP. Very very strange.
 

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P2NP is incredibly close to the final product and also somewhat close to other restricted precursors, what makes a concern legit.

I would be very interested in an experienced view on this aswell as I've been wondering about the same question.
 

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I am wondering about central europe (netherlands, germany, belgium, luxembourg) importet from Poland.

It is not apperaing on any updated lists what wonders me as it is so incredibly close to the final product
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25% NaOH

Used to make soap
 

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Yes, and with soapmaking comes the need for different essential oils and solvents. Anethole could be used for this, and benzaldehyde.
 

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Exactly!

I'll get back later with more excuses for 100% of substances used in the amphetamine synthesis via the NaBH4/CuCL2 route
 

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P2NP

- Re-Label it as aroma, due to it's smell
- Legal use: Manufacturing for nitro lacquers
 

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NaBH4

Legal Use: Industrial use in fuel cel vehicles
 

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CuCL2

Legal use cases:

- Creation of green flames in fireworks
- Textile colours
- Bleach negatives in fotography
- Fight mushroom infections in wine & fruit plantages
- Soot removal in oil furnaces
 

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Isopropyl/Isopropanol

Legal Use: Cleaning, Desinfection, Dissolving of substances

Mostly used in industrial environment such as constructions or workshops
 

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Dichlormethan:

Legal use cases:

Solvents for resins, fats and plastics
Smoking aids for varnishes
Deskineters and drift gases
Production of foams and refrigerants in Cooling agent

Food industry: hop, aroma and caffeine extraction (widespread in coffee and tea Industry) and Decaffeination of coffee
 

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While soap is the easiest excuse, here are some others:

Drain cleaner, solves fats & proteins in deposits
Solution of fire layers in cooking pots (gastronomy)
Feature of bottles in drink filling plants
Cleaning stainless steel tanks
inserting olives
Cleaning of milkmaker, pipes, hoses and Milk cooling tanks
 
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