Methamphetamine synthesis from P2P by NaBH4 reduction. Medium-Scale.

[btcboss2022]

Hello,

After many tests using Methylamine HCL based on this method I will share the best way that I found to obtain Methamphetamine freebase in big scale:

• 966 gr P2P​
• 14 liters Methanol
• 1183 gr Methylamine HCL​
• 638gr NaOH​
• 452 gr Anhydrous Sodium Sulfate​
• 105 gr NaBH4​
• 35 L distilled water​
• 7 Liters DCM​

- Fill the reactor with the 14 L of Methanol
- With stirring dissolve the Methylamine HCL
- Put the reactor temp at 0C(not the mixture temp) and add the NaOH, the temp will increase
- Once the temp come back to 20C add the P2P, the temp will increase stir it during 45min-1 hour
- Add 252gr of anhydrous sodium sulfate
- When the mixture temp arrives to 8C start adding portionwise the NaBH4 not exceeding the 20C
- Once all the NaBH4 has been added let it mixing under 20C during aprox 2 hours until the mixture stops bubbling
- Add the water and continue mixing during 5 min
- Add the DCM and mix it during 10 min
- Stop stirring and let layers get separated
- Keep the bottom layer and discard the upper one( not profitable to extract this aqueous phase)
- Add 200gr of anhydrous sodium sulfate to the saved layer and mix it
- Filter it in Buchner Funnel
- Evaporate the DCM
- Clean and smelly Methamphetamine freebase obtained

;-)

 

[situ1984]

Clean and smelly Methamphetamine freebase obtained：：how to become crystal

 

[Win Win]

Thanks for your sharing…. I will try your methol

 

[Win Win]

This scare is using how many little reactor? And must use methylamine HCL? Cannot use methylamine solution?

 

[btcboss2022]

I use 100l one, you can use methylamine solution in methanol not in water.

 

[Win Win]

Noted…. So i can use methylamine solution replace methylamine HCL right. Other step just follow right?

 

[btcboss2022]

Yes but methylamine methanol solution only.

 

[Win Win]

Sir i have few question to ask. 1)Methylamine solution in methanol ratio is?
2)NaoH ration is?
3) NabH4 need make solution? And ratio is?
4) how to crystallize? Use HCL gas to crystallize?

 

[Win Win]

I cant get NabH4. Have any product can replace this?

 

[situ1984]

Is yours the one pot method? What reaction equipment is used?

 

[btcboss2022]

Method is not mine I just adapted some points to be easier to myself.
Equipment depends on the amount that you will use.

 

[G.Patton]

It's simple procedure with d-trataric acid. Look at this method, same with meth.

 

[situ1984]

Should I use d-tartaric acid directly? Can I get D by cleaning the oil produced by btcboss2022 method?

 

[G.Patton]

Can you be more specific? What method do you refer to? What do you mean directly? This method (which I linked) is direct.

 

[Lordoftheshard 2]

Im.gking to be quiet honest and Frank here have any if you tried the product this makes strength wise iits fucken shit yrs you make a product but it does nothing not only me 4 other people said the same thing after producing product for the last 20 years I'm going to tell you all straight unless your reaction has a metal in it don't bother it's the metals that what give the product it's strength leg lithium bitch iodine hypophos/rp p2p aluminium amalgam your reaction has to be one of these else your just waisting time effort and money on producing shit
I'm not having a go at any one I'm just stating the facts thanks to btc bioss keep up the good work I'm going to try and find another method of yours that has metal in so I don't throw this p2p down the toilet all these methods without metal in them are to ifucken.us3l3ss

 

[btcboss2022]

Is impossible to discuss something when the main thing are "facts" based on personal feelings without any chemical or scientific argument.
Is very easy to understand pure MDMA is pure MDMA and pure D-Meth is pure D-meth if you obtain the pure product it's a unique compound with a unique molecule structure.

D-Meth

MDMA

If you have these pure and isolated molecules no matter the route you used with metal, without metal even with magical techniques...won't be any difference should be exactly the same.
About strength only could change about impurities(pure product concentration not enough isolated) or enantiomers separation(in that case won't be the exact molecule of the pic)
I can put in your hands 10 samples of pure product obtained with different routes and you never will know the route used on each, won't be distinguishable.

Easy example pure technical distilled H2O is pure H2O you won't know the technique used to get it you just have H2O.

With this I don't want to change your mind or your feelings when you use the product, I'm just explaining contrasted and real facts that could be shown to anybody anywhere with the same results.

Thanks.

 

[situ1984]

Could you please tell me the steps of hydroiodic acid in ephedrine?

 

[Win Win]

There are so many methamphetamine recipes, which one is the best?

 

[G.Patton]

Hello, it's up to you. Read this topic and it would be much more easy to decide which is the best for you.
Methamphetamine and Amphetamine Syntheses Methods Comparison

 

[Win Win]

Thank you so much

 

[Win Win]

Orite thanks

 

[rothschild33]

When doing a TLC for this reaction, to verify imine then amine formation, which solvents are the best ones to use?

If the compounds are colorless on the TLC, are there resources I can look up on which ones I should do to the make TLC spots visible? (like UV light or adding another compound)

 

[rothschild33]

Also, will adding excess sodium sulfate affect the reaction?

 

[kinkyfeet1]

Hi general Patton, i am new to the website and i have a question.

 

[Paranoia]

On the current market it is definitelly perfect..