Methamphetamine from ephedrine tablets

[G.Patton]

Aspirin 10 g/100 ml ethyl ether
Caffeine 0.2 g/100 ml ethyl ether
Ephedrine insoluble in ether
Use anhydrous ether!

 

[Bmth]

Sorry and please help
I have finished following this video, and I will not produce Meteoramine coarse powder, please help I do not understand what is the next step for me to be able to produce Methamphetamine crystals (ice/meth)

 

[Joeking]

Hi legend, I can't for the life of me figure out how to seperate the ephedrine from the caffeine as they are both insoluble in ethyl ether, do you have any idea, TIA.

 

[Bmth]

Sorry and please help
I have finished following this video, and I will not produce Methaoethamine crude powder, please help I do not understand what is the next step for me to be able to produce Methamphetamine crystals (ice/meth)

 

[pdwshopnl]

How Look situaction with CIRRUS tabletts in EU?
I hear first step is remove shell from all tablets - hands - (more time process) in acetone, next if are dry grinding for powder, next extraction with toluene 2-3x (in toluene is of course unwanted product stopped reaction becouse hydrochloride dont disolve in toluen)- filtrate and this extract out.
Next filtrate alkalise IT for change pseudoephedrine hydrochloride to base and extraction one again (3 times minimum) with ether/toluene/etc and gassing hcl to neutral ph and for end filtrate, dryiness to get pseudoephedrine hcl ready to Next step

 

[hirozaru]

When you say....

> and gassing hcl to neutral ph and for end filtrate

does this means, before gassing, I can check pH, and a high pH of 11 or 12 would indicate presence of meth ? then I will be HCl gasing until pH is down to neutral level, meaning, its all been turn into a salt ?

correct ?

 

[Jumin]

Hi thanks for your response,

Also, I'm sorry I'm new to all this stuff so I might be asking questions that would look stupid if look from the perspective of an expert.

"" Noone can say. How bad is the GAK. are you doing red, white and blue? cold cook? Nazi with lithium. Did you do proper mol ammount and not just eye ball. Noone can say without more info. "

I was talking about this same process demonstrated in this video. Like using pseudoephedrine and Red Phosphorus. Let's make two scenarios here; One, Let's say I did it perfectly and used extremely precise measures. Two, I did it first time and like my stuff( raw materials, reagents solvants) was intermediate level of purity and I did an average job. Then how much purity and yield I can achieve?

"e is most commonly produced either from l-ephedrine or d-pseudoephedrine, while racemic d,l-methamphetamine is most commonly produced from 1-phenyl-2-propanone (P2P; also known as phenylacetone and by several other, more obscure names and acronyms)."

Does that mean the white powder like product we got at the end of this whole process was the final product?? And, it needs no further processing or anything it's the same "ice, crystal meth" sold on the street?? If so, why was it in the powder form and not in the crystal form as we usually see it?? And, how can we crystallize it?

Also, in most of the videos I see that at the end of the process they call their final product ( this very same powder like product) methamphetamine hydrochloride and not ONLy Methamphetamine? Why is that so? is ice or crystal meth we usually know that it's only methamphetamine but actually it is methamphetamine hydrochloride and the word hydrochloride is just not mentioned but it is always there as silent word? Or Hydrochloride we get at the end is extracted using another process to purify the final product which is then ONLY Methamphetamine (ice, crystal meth)?

 

[Sassypants]

Again noone can tell you. For example, Are you new? mechanical loses happen more when you are new for example. With that again WE can't tell what you are doing red, white blue? Do you plan on making HI with PH down or similar phosphorus based fertilizers? What about phosphorus strike pads. How well did you clean it. Etc etc., did you buy it. You see we can't tell you because there are to many variables including, Over reduced or unreduced pusedo ephedrine vs the meth you want and no way to tell without a proper lab sadly

 

[Jumin]

Also, any advice on this???


"e is most commonly produced either from l-ephedrine or d-pseudoephedrine, while racemic d,l-methamphetamine is most commonly produced from 1-phenyl-2-propanone (P2P; also known as phenylacetone and by several other, more obscure names and acronyms)."

Does that mean the white powder like product we got at the end of this whole process was the final product?? And, it needs no further processing or anything it's the same "ice, crystal meth" sold on the street?? If so, why was it in the powder form and not in the crystal form as we usually see it?? And, how can we crystallize it?

Also, in most of the videos I see that at the end of the process they call their final product ( this very same powder like product) methamphetamine hydrochloride and not ONLy Methamphetamine? Why is that so? is ice or crystal meth we usually know that it's only methamphetamine but actually it is methamphetamine hydrochloride and the word hydrochloride is just not mentioned but it is always there as silent word? Or Hydrochloride we get at the end is extracted using another process to purify the final product which is then ONLY Methamphetamine (ice, crystal meth)?

 

[roy308]

Can someone tell me, when doing the final step of acidifying with hydrogen chloride, when should it end? Should I keep an eye on the pH?

 

[Pinkbay]

Can anyone tell me if iodine, rp, and pse can really complete the reaction in 1.5 hours?

 

[micked24]

Absolutely not! 24 hours @ approximately 115 -120 C under reflux is the only way to get a complete conversion.

 

[smuser86]

If I understand correctly, in early 2000s folks in the post-USSR countries used the same reaction to produce meth-HI but they didn't go through all the steps to get rid of the iodine and just injected themselves with that yellow colored solution, sometimes without even bothering with raising the ph level. I had heard some of them say that shooting up with the solution when it still has iodine gives a better rush. Must have been wild stuff to subject yourself to.

The street name of that drug was 'vint' (means 'a screw' in Russian) and although a lot of people also called it pervitin, or methamphetamine I always felt like there was a bit of confusion, because it wasn't exactly the same kind of methamphetamine that people in other countries usually referred to as crystal meth.

 

[Pinkbay]

If I add water and hcl to acidify the free base when making a free base, separate the water layer, and completely evaporate the water, will salt appear in the end? In theory, hydrogen chloride is not needed?

 

[G.Patton]

Hello, yes you can. But I don't recommend you evaporate water completely because you'll get methamphetamine hydrochloride with all side products (impurities) in the dry form. Let meth crystallize.