Methamphetamine crystallization and Ice manufacturing

[Hank Schrader]

It is one of the purest forms of methamphetamine and has a dextro isomer.

To date, we have high quality indicators, the purity of methamphetamine has reached 99% +

Metaphetamine has a specific rotation
the optically pure D isomer is [α]20D = -18.90° at 99%+ purity.

My product contains only dextromethamphetamine. We use fractional basic distillation and re-purification.
We do not dilute with methylbenzylamine and other substances.
Our product has the correct melting point

Our organization is ready for cooperation and is ready to cooperate with both manufacturers and large buyers.

We are ready to help with the supply of ready-made precursors and complete sets for work, as well as wholesale batches of finished products.

 

[adrenochrome]

I'm interested in how to make ice with racemate meth, does anyone know a detailed technique?

 

[Lordoftheshard]

EU resolution has to be done to it racemic FB cannot make shard that's why they invented back in 2008 n-isopropylbenzylamine so that cartels weren't loosing half the weight extracting the dmeth out
Now that mix racemic FB with n-iso 1 to1 and it shards up

 

[adrenochrome]

very grateful for the info. do you have a link or info how to do d-meth from l-meth ?

 

[Lordoftheshard]

Only d meth makes shards and there are many tech To do so
I'm going to set the record straight this fester crap about HCl gassing gives you Ice and shards is bullshit it only works if you use freon or liquid nitrogen if going to use HCl has
The best shards are made buy doing a 20%dh20rexal of the the tritated fb oil to pH 5.8and the crystallizing dish of Pyrex tray left in a cupboard under UV black lights and.must not be disturbed at all for at least a week minimum it takes time to make superior product
I'll tell you all another trick if you just pH your FB oil and just leaves it alone it will evap and dehydrate to ice to this is how the Chinese do it it's all about being patient
But this gassing in toluene and ether will only make you a powdered product that will have to be rexalled to make Ice only freon or liquid. Nitrogen will make instant I'ce once the HCl gas comes in contact with it

 

[adrenochrome]

ok friend. i did all u say
but where is crystall?
sorry this site cant load picture

 

[Lordoftheshard]

1 do some home work
UV Fluorescent Black Light BL 12inch (full length) Replace Light Bulb 8Watt T5 UVA
2 20%of the total weight of the the product dh20 recrystallisation eg 1000g MA add 200g of dh20 heat dissolve then place under UV black light
And I tell you straight don't try and belittle me and try and make me look like ,I don't know what I'm talking about ok
I come to this community with ,20years experience and I don't need to copy and paste Fester bullshit for answers ok
I have worked in ,labs all over the world

 

[adrenochrome]

1. 1000g MA its free base or HCl ?
2. dh20-this is distilled water ?

 

[adrenochrome]

very
Interesting

 

[adrenochrome]

man, I did it, there weren’t any crystals, it just settled in the form of pieces of stone or even looks like pieces of cake, does anyone have a link to a normal source or a patent on how to make crystals that are not even very large? ALL THANKS

 

[WinterDust]

When you have you methamphetamine freebase you need to extract the d-isomer using l-tartaric acid. The crystals (precipitate) that you get from extraction is your d-isomer, now you need to freebase it to D-Methamphetamine freebase.

When that is done you use HCl Gas to turn it into Crystal D-Methamphetamine Shards.

There is an actual detailed article here for you to read and ask questions about if you don't understand.

I mean honestly, how do you suppose we are going to help you when all you say is "This does not work, help"?

Help us to help you, tell us step by step what you have done to obtain methamphetamine freebase, show us pictures, tell us of your procedures, I mean, jesus christ. Did you not go to school and interact with teachers? This forum is no different.

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

recrystalize in 2 parts water 1 part hot alcohol, maybe begin with 1:1 if quantity is small

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

I also heard of people using heat to bring crystals to exact melting point and no higher, mix with a little hot water or alcohol and leave to set and break it up once dry, but I have not tried

 

[adrenochrome]

15.0 g (0.1 mol) racemic base was dissolved in the mixture of 20 ml of dichloroethane and 15 ml of water. A solution of 9.4 g (0.025 mol) O,O'-dibenzoyl-2R,3R-tartaric acid in 40 ml of dichloroethane and given amount of 18.8ml methanol was added to the two phase solution of the racemic base in 30 minutes at room temperature. From the stirred solution the crystallization starts in 10-15 minutes. The resulted suspension was stirred at 5°C overnight, then filtered. The precipitate was washed on the filter three times with 5 ml dichloroethane 5°C and dried under an infrared lamp. The precipitated salts were reacted by 30 ml 2N NaOH and extracted tree times with 25 ml of dichloromethane.
Then add HCl (30%) to ph6 in DCM and drove everything under vacuum
-add acetone, heat and freez, white powder filtered.
-to 7g powder add 2.5ml distilled water heated to dissolve

 

[adrenochrome]

and why exactly l-tartaric acid is needed, I looked at the source, do I need d-tartaric acid?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

You can use many dicarboxi acids as long as they are chiral for separation.And you can use either the L or D acid.Check out my video on this.

Resolution of phenylethylamines using L-carboxilic acids

Video courtesy of @[6328:@UWe9o12jkied91d]

bbgate.com

 

[adrenochrome]

that is, you want to say that l-tartaric acid precipitates l-meth in the form of a salt (tartrate) and d-meth remains in solution as a base?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

What you described applies to procedure using D-R where R is carboxylic acid, the opposite happens when L-R are used and is what the video describes.

 

[adrenochrome]

2 days have passed

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

L-tartric will precipitate L-tartrate D-product

D-tartric will precipitate the D-tartrate L-product

Either one you use they are still separated, no?

Also I didnt know u were working with racemic product, that will not grow "shards" ever.

 

[adrenochrome]

yes i use d-meth HCl

 

[adrenochrome]

can use methanole?

 

[jboogie]

im calling bullshit on this thread too. as someone who has been around enough, this isnt how its done. i see no references to freon and acetone, the bit about acetone froze for 2 weeks (wtf is that bullshit? like it makes it colder for longer? stfu), and furthermore the bit about amphetamine hcl at the end pissed me off. nobody is making amphetamine hcl xytls. ive been alive since PPA was legal and made my fair share of substituted amphetamines and one of my first failures was trying to gas PPA reduced via rp/i, aka amphetamine, and i can tell you it doesnt. you will always end up with a hygroscopic compound that turns to a puddle of yellow on the plate.

you want biggest shards? you rextylize from water. you want fastest shards, you go acetone and freon/hcl. that last way is how they rock up MSM with it at the end. just saying. meth is disgusting anyway.

my spidey sense is tingling with this page. somehow the people running are using some targeted campaign to recruit people and it feels off. as a former mod from the hive, zones, wd etc. something doesnt feel totally right about this group. it exists smack dab in the middle of uncannyville. you have been warned. YMMV.

 

[G.Patton]

Depends on your HCl gas. In case you use wet HCl, you'll get a puddle. Nevertheless, amph*HCl not so god idea. It is well known fact.

 

[41Dxflatline]

I've made it. You can make sure its thin on the plate and it absolutely dried to a brittle solid after leaving the dish on a 70C heated printer bed. Most of it was a translucent granular wax though, and thats the form it spends most of its time in.

 

[adrenochrome]

Thanks to everyone for the advice, but honestly none of them work (except for the UV method), I spent 2 weeks on these experiments and it turned out that the crystals come out only when you do recrystallization from methanol. SO guys, before advising something, make sure for yourself that it works and don’t copy from the Internet and paste it here, all the best

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

what is the UV method, can you go in detail?

 

[adrenochrome]

sorry, under UF (ultraviolet)