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In my scenario
Ordered goods is not what was offered
Typical Cases here are d-meth offered
Received something not d-meth

I'll asking for some stats from escrow
how is this resolved​

Then is case worse bcz if seller has 20
Positive reviews I'll be as troublemaker and it already happened to me in , it was two x samples both not meth

But In reviews was that stuff perfect revived
/Wasn't meth but they telling it is/
 

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So you recieved 2 mdma samples when you expected meth? Just to be clear, these were not free sample ? you paid for them? lets see the pictures you are either right or wrong. It should be clear to tell
 

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no 2x2g unknown chemical /should be met./ wich i used to smoke
but it have anyeffect except litle sweating

funy is that i didnt wrote review on it
but another user written
and he is very happy with that /he lie/
seller confirmed he get same material as me
 

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"Hello, I am a former member of the BB platform and would like to start selling as a manufacturer. Which officials should I contact regarding my previous account and selling as a manufacturer on the forum? Or can they reach out to me?


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No one. Protect your identity. Linking your old account isnt going to benefit you, but ifnyour old account is active, you should have contacted admin beforehand to be approved to have a second accound HEISENBURG and Garaday are the admins. To start as a seller go tonthe market and at the top creste a listing. Follow the rules and submit it for approval. The listing isnt jus twilly nilly, it has several mandatory parts that need to be fullfilled. Read the rules for more clarity
 

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@Litioned,myou are going to need evidence. That is a test result from a lab. Before you spend money on that though, put a drop of sulfuric acid on it. If it turns orange you have no case, don't waste your money on a lab test
 

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i dont think i need proofs .. prof from lab is expensive
its simply that material is not what seller declared
i have marquis from protest
but react litle bit .. not sure
i think that word of customer should be heard
if someone think iam liying tell me reason
iam searching for good suplier to be able order when i need
and not this ...
because i asked b4 look previous what i write
no answer from admins
and now iam facing exact situation i mentioned ..
aghr
 

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Litioned, the person you got it from, if he made it, hes an expert. This could be your first time ever trying it for all we know. If your an expert, than you can convince us that you are correct but otherwise feelings and thoughts and emotions are not imperical evidence of any wrongndoing. You recieved a physical product, so you need physical evidence that its not what you ordered. This is the general way of the entire world. If you sue somebody, you need evidence, if you want a refund, you need evidence. Without evidence its conjecture and has no standing
 

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so I'll be happy to clarify it for you
evidence ok
if he sent me levo meth or another crystaline look then marqis and most of the tests will be positive
so only laboratory but that is also possible they recently opened a testing center here so I'll find out if they are able to identify d-l
I'll write there

what you say here is your opinion
but you're not an admin and he will judge this

but did you see the post above?
everyone talks about how the escrow protects you
but almost no one discussed this situation there
and that surprises me a bit that is reason why iam asking !

at the same time it really pisses me off that people promise a product review
/the first time they got something they said was shit
i know that the seller sent new goods and that he would write a review again a lot of time has passed and the user still hasn't written
i even wrote him a PM and still no answer
 

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Whay i say is a fact. True, im not an admin and i dont represent this site ( actually i do) it doesnt represent THE OPINION of admjn, that is true. Ill make a note that only god can judge you now because anything you dont like it false.
 

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it's a misinterpretation from you

read and count the cases I describe

received something that didn't match the known effects of the substance

everyone talks about non-receipt and other shit, but the most important situation is you get something that doesn't do anything, that's not discussed here, so
I ask the admins if they are able to provide some data about that
and about situations like this


don't like it? I'm not saying I don't like it, I'm saying it doesn't do anything and that there are people who write false positive reviews
 

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I know and there are sellers who selectively scam people that they think wont knownor arent capable of calling them out on it. There are buyers who scam sellers by strong-arming them with threats to thier reputation, bad reviews and similar stuff. This is true for every market since silk road and every market handles it in a thier own way, but theres no escaping the short comings of buying drugs you cant see/hold. When consideringnthese things, the admins are like the judges. Theynhear thentestimony and interpret the rules andit cant be perfect. For one thing most markets let a seller set his own rules as far as refund/reship. So a buyer needs to make sure they read them and agree. Its implied that you agree if you click the buy button.mif youndontnagree, buy the stuff somewhere else. Many markets auto finalize a deal to com at buyers not finalizing and some are set to do it so fast, that its before you recieve the product. This isa sucky rule in my opinion, but ifnyou look at it from the sellers perspective its better. One ofnthensellers here waited 3-4days after the pack was marked delivered before action was taken to get his money. Mthe bhyer was probably not going to finalize, he probably didnt even realize he needed to. Being fair is hard, youncould say its not possible. What you can do as a buyer is document evsrytning you do until youve clicked finalize, so if something goes wrong, you can be more convincing than the seller, some of which have 10,000 sales and no lost disputes. You arent going to convince admin that you are right and the seller is wrong when the seller has a track record 10,000 events long and no lost disputes and he probably talks to admin daily. If you hope to convince admin, you are gking to need to prove that you even are famikiar with the subject matter. He doesnt know what you know, so be prepared to qualify your education and experience on the subject. Only then can hou make a case. These arbitrations are basically just like the court ststem and the outcome of a dispute relies on you out litigating the defendant. All I was tryingnto do here is smooth it over and help you understand that. No, i dont represent HEISENBURG, but ive got knowledge and experience with him and with admin in several other markets and i will lay my miney down on the table and my bet is you arent getting anything back. The reason is you havent proven your case not even tiny bit. I sypathise with you, ive lost money on several occasions too Probably $1000 last year. If I dont have a compelling case, i send the seller a message that says fuck you, then i hand over the dough because i cant win and whining is ugly
 

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thank you for your comment,

i think i will get my money back, i am sure of it

i will have the sample tested in a chemistry lab

and i will get the results within 14 days and i will try to send it on monday
 

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Can you explain the synthesis of succinic acid etc., urgent need
 

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It's worth to buy ready-made one
 

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Boiling points are different. You can measure it and check which substance do u have.

218 and 239*C respectively
 
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I have limited equipment access at the moment so unable to check boiling point . Not too sure either how I can do this..
 

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Checking density is what I was thinking too..appreciate any quick way to do it
 

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hello how much oil A can be obtained from the synthesis you described, I mean the synthesis of P2NP using AL/Hg for 10g of P2NP
 
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