First time MDMA synthesis, need help with advice please!!

[Tippingpointover]

Hi,
I’m looking to do my first time mdma synthesis. Not looking to do large scale. More for personal use and for the fun of it!!
So, I’ve done some reading so far. The most detailed instructions I can find that make sense to me are doctor drools, bright star and methyl man. I’m able to understand and follow their instructions. The only problem is I can’t find a sassafras/safrole oil source. Or a yellow camphor oil source(everything out there seems to be white). The companies in the USA that are claiming to sell such products look as though they would sell you bogus oils.
1.)Does anyone know how to go about obtaining any of those oils? Or a different oil I could use, like ho wood?
2.)Should I be looking at a synthesis that doesn’t involve safrole now? If so what synthesis should I research?
3.) should I be looking into synthesizing my own safrole? If so, what’s the best approach?
I would really appreciate any help that can be given. I’m looking forward to my first synthesis!!

 

[HIGGS BOSSON]

Recently, it has been very difficult to find safrole sources, so for beginners, I recommend buying PMK glycidats in China, from which you can easily get PMK

 

[Tippingpointover]

Thanks Bosson,
Is there some more information you could supply or a source you could recommend reading? Which glacials and how you turn them in PMK? Again, thanks for any information you can give

 

[Anarchy Labz]

Hasn't pmk been banned in china?

 

[HIGGS BOSSON]

There are varieties of glycidates analogues, some are legal at the moment

 

[Tippingpointover]

I’ve looked into a pmk ethyl to mdp-2-p synthesis. I looked at the large scale synthesis you sent me. But could I do this without a reactor and instead a boiling flask and hot plate? Also would this scale work?

1. Put 475 g of distilled h2o in a beaker and dissolve 25g of sodium bicarbonate
2. 70 g distilled h2o into a boiling flask
3. While stirring add 12 g sodium hydroxide
4. Bring mixture up to 60c
5. In a pot melt 50g of pmk wax
6. Add to the h20 and sodium hydroxide mix
7. Bring up to 80c slowly and reflux for an hour
8. Add 3.25g Hcl 37% slowly- reflux for one hour at 80c while stirring
9. After one hour- stop stirring and bring mixture down to 25c
10. Separate water layer from oil
11. Add oil layer back to boiling flask
12. Add h20 and sodium mix from step 1- stir for 2-3 min
13. Add 100g of dcm
14. Allow separation for 15 min
15. Distill dcm from solvent at 104f
16. Collect mdp-2-p

 

[Tippingpointover]

Thanks Bosson,
Is there some more information you could supply or a source you could recommend reading? Which glacials and how you turn them in PMK? Again, thanks for any information you can give me.

 

[HIGGS BOSSON]

http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/en/threads/pmk-oil-synthesys-from-pmk-cas-28578-16-7-wax-form-large-scale.4006/

http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/en/threads/all-in-one-thread-for-ethyl-methyl-pmk-glycidate-conversion-to-pmk.2013/

 

[Berlin777]

There’s new PMK available on the market, you can easily convert it to MDP2P, just click reagents & equipment then type new PMK

 

[mycelium]

I made a post asking about converting 1,3-Benzodioxole-5-acetic acid, α-acetyl-, methyl ester, which several vendors have available, to PMK....
And I was wondering, could we pay to have a tek made by the experts, or even a video, of the whole thing, (new PMK powder to MDMA HCl) or the converting of new PMK to PMK? I would pay a bit of monero, and I'm sure others would, too

Maybe a vendor could show the reaction steps, which would help them sell more of the pre precursor.

Thank you

 

[Berlin777]

I am pretty sure all vendors will provide you all you need to convert it to MDP2P, the rest you will vond on the forum. This is very popular and scalable way http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhn...ads/mdma-synthesis-via-nabh4-from-mdp2p.5188/
I've cooked MDMA without any video so I am sure you can do it as well. The expert gonna help you if you ask them.

 

[Field7]

Drool's, Methyl Man's, and Brightstar"s are all pretty much the same thing.

Methyl Man's has been been cited, and copied, and studied by a few researchers, and their findings have been published in journals.

It's *brown camphor you'd be after. But really, it's anything that smells like black licorice. Anisette, Star Anise, Hojo Santa...

Dried, shredded or ground Sassafras root bark is readily available. Just Google "Sassafras root bark for sale." Soak the bark, and use steam distillation to separate the oil. Purify it (!) through fractional distillation under vacuum. Don't debate it. Just do it.

Fractionally distill your ketone under vacuum. If anyone brings up "bisulphite addition products", I'll smack you.

PMK, it's esters, etc, are banned in China, now. Have been for months. "New PMK" is not PMK. It's a precursor to PMK. I think a vendor or two in this site has it. Use Escrow. If you don't want to use Escrow, just send me your money instead: I can spend it better.

If using Methyl Man's, use a slight excess on Nitromethane. Watch your temperature, as mercury amalgam reductions can get pretty hot pretty fast. Be patient with your acid base extractions-- give adequate time for layers to separate. Dry your solvent thoroughly before crystallization. To recover your product, I'd suggest switching from xylene to methylene chloride or something else with a low boiling point. Distilling it of under vacuum, and then crystallize from isopropanol and concentrated Hydrochloric Acid.

Godspeed.

 

[Field7]

...Oh, and the other guy said--- PMK + Methylamine Hydrochloride + Sodium Borohydride+ etc is pretty straightforward. That's how a lot of the big boys do it. Triacetoxyborohydride works too, and is probably cheaper right now. Mind the water content.

 

[Berlin777]

STAB is not cheaper, you need to use it a lot more than NaBH4

 

[Field7]

Shop around. I've gotten it for about 1/3 the cost of what I'm paying for Sodium Borohydride, now. Of course, I've also watched the price of Sodium Borohydride shoot up over the last 2 years. Maybe it's time for me to shop around, too. But I've always paid less for STAB and Sodium Cyanoborohydride. Personally, I'd prefer Sodium Borohydride even if it does cost more--- it's not as finicky about water, or solvent choice or pH.

But yeah; I get it cheaper. You can, too.