Potential with phenylephrine to methamphetamine?

mxtlrr_chem

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Could this be used in place of ephedrine since the latter is no longer OTC (and if it is, obtaining requires a license, unless you make it).
Phenylephrine is a nasal decongestant with the chemical formula C9H13NO2. It's formula looks like this:

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Is there any potential for this, or is it too inefficient to be used in place of ephedrine?
 

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uhhg, my bad, I thought you said phenyaniline. No, That Oh on the ring is a bitch, You can;t knockit off without destroying the whole thin. You can substitute it and then knock the sub off, but the price is too high.
 
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You should elaborate on the possibility if you know of a way. Whether or not it would be impractical is irrelevant. A process featuring phenylephrine as a precursor to amphetamines is highly desired knowledge and seemingly deemed to not be possible. For the knowledge, and perhaps a moonshot opportunity to throw the pigs' garbage back in their faces, any information you have would be much appreciated.
 

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Well, the thing is, pseudoephedrine hcl used to come in 60 mg generic pills. Pheylephrine comes in 10mg pills, so it takes 100 to hve a gram of the stuff.
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Here's the idea. Looks like there are a few ways to go about it. Possibly 1 could be zinc powder or 0.7-1.0% ,ol wt. sulphuric acid. You are dehydroxylating the 5 position on the phenol ring of a phenyethlamine. Next you are going to want to dehydroxylate rhe 2 position of the propyl moiety. The terminal end of the propyl alread has a methyl,, 3hydrogens, so a primary amine.Then you just have to methylate the alpha position of the ethyl functional group. Depending what you use yhere is gonna determin wether you have D,L-meth, L-meth or D-meth. I suggest D. It doesn't HAVE to go in that order It just all needs done. I typed out what each thing was so you could UTFSE or look on google or something to make a specific plan as far as reactants and solvents ;0
 

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In my recent hunts for E or PSE locally, all I have come across are these 10mg Phenylephrine pills usually containing acetaminophen + other 'crap' The practicality is irrellevent to me also, If it is possible and the means can be sourced from store shelves, I am quite interested. The soldier behind enemy lines cant just order the precursors, so this knowledge is vital. I might take this on as a homework assignment and try to UTFSE to make that plan, I will need some help, of course, if anyone wants to DM and compare notes. I suppose I will have to order some ma huang to serve my research ends, in the mean time. Thank you.
 
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