Meth smoking - Harm reduction?

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Smoking meth is very entertaining for me and much people around the world. However meth needs heat to evaporate (~170°C depends on meth structure and purity) and people usually overburn it. Then meth molecules Starts to decay, and usually turns black.

My question is, what is this residue of meth, and how to ruduce inhaling poisonous substances from glass pipe.

I have tried burning at lower temperature, and I tried to spread surface of melted meth, but it's not effective at all.

Any ideas?
 

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That happens even when I have crystal meth. Pic I don't have now, I threw out my last pipe.
 

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When methamphetamine is exposed to temperatures much higher than its vaporization point, its molecules begin to degrade through pyrolysis (chemical breakdown due to heat). This breakdown can form various toxic compounds. The black residue you see is likely a mix of burned meth and these toxic chemicals, which can cause damage to the lungs and other tissues when inhaled.

While no method of using meth is completely safe, here are a few approaches that might help reduce the risk of inhaling harmful byproducts:

1. Lower, More Controlled Heating: You’ve already tried lower temperatures, which is a good step. The key here is to aim for steady, even heating of the pipe to avoid burning the meth. Using a butane torch with a soft flame (instead of direct high heat) can help control the temperature more effectively. The goal is to heat just enough to vaporize the meth, not scorch it.

2. Spreading the Meth Thinly: Spreading meth out more thinly across the pipe surface can help expose more of the substance to lower heat, allowing for better vaporization. However, as you noticed, it doesn't always work well. One way to improve this is to tilt and rotate the pipe gently during heating, ensuring that the meth doesn't pool and overheat in one spot.

3. Cooling the Vapor: Consider using longer glass pipes or rigs that allow the vapor to cool slightly before inhalation. Hot vapor can cause more irritation to the lungs and can potentially carry more impurities. Longer pipes give the vapor time to condense slightly, allowing larger toxic particles to settle inside the pipe rather than being inhaled.

4. Frequent Pipe Cleaning: Regularly clean your glass pipe to remove any residue buildup. Not only can residue from previous sessions affect the flavor, but it also can contribute to the release of harmful chemicals when reheated. Use a proper glass-cleaning method, such as isopropyl alcohol and salt, to dissolve residues and prevent re-inhalation of burned materials.

5. Inhalation Techniques: Taking slower, smaller hits can also reduce the amount of vapor being inhaled in one go, lowering the irritation and potential exposure to harmful byproducts.

It's important to recognize that even with harm reduction methods, meth carries significant risks to both physical and mental health. Smoking meth can lead to lung damage (sometimes called "meth lung" or pneumonitis), severe addiction, cardiovascular stress, cognitive impairments, and mental health disorders like anxiety, paranoia, and psychosis.
 

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Thank you for accurate reply. I hoped that you might respond.
 

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what is meth base thermal decomposition point? it is around 220-230c as i believe. meth hcl shall be even more stable up to 300c.
170c shall not affect meth molecule. but side residues - yes.

you may find this study interesting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6921295/

i tried to vape amph, and i can say it is very good. in small dosages as 40-50mg/ml buyers also say it works well. but meth is less volatile so a dossage shall be smaller.
 
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Sounds like a job for my pid and coil e-dab rig
 

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Show me how you do 😏
And tell me which I can buy
 
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this is exactly like what I have. There's a temp. Sensor built into the coils. You can set it to any temp you want and it will hold it. Iv used it several ways, from making a cup out of a piece of pop can that sits inside the coil but the right kind of bowl piece fits right into it. The right kind doesn't have the smoke tube at the bottom but at the top
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Omg. This is actually what I need ☺️
 

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Anywhere I believe. Aliexpress alibaba,ntemu Amazon eBay etcetera it s pid controller and a "banger"
 

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Anywhere I believe????"!&(??? This sentence confuse me 😧 😭
 

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But thank you much I gonna buy that
 

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On Amazon they are called

110V PID Temperature Controller Kit with Accessories​

And run about $90 all together, then the "banger" the bowl piece is $15 or so. Be sure to get one that matches the coil. If the coil is 20mm you need a bowl piece that is also 20mm
 

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Thanks. I have found pid, but the 20mm bowl I can't. I have found this, but is only in USA...https://cannacabana.com/products/electric-domeless-quartz-nail-1-mm-male-w-bowl-2-mm?sID=8190
 

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They are harder to find, but worst case scenario you can blow a pipe the fits inside the coil, or fabricate it from another material. "Quartz bangers" looked to have a se
Ectiin of them, but I'm not sure if they deliver where you are. Imcan buy them locally at the smoke shope
 

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Thank you for your information and time! 😊 Have a nice day
 

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Čistý pervitin se nepálí odpálí se beze zbytku a kolikrát nenechá ani stopu na dymce. Vypadá to že jste to měli řízlý.
 

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what are folks take on hotrailing
never heard of it until recently, looked intimidating but I was reassured 'its smoother than youd think'
and holy shit it was.
 

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I'm basically hotrailing with my bong set up. I'm not putting it to my nose, but Sometimes I do. By wife does all Hotrails, there's not a oil pipe in the house. I used to break them about every other day
 
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