Question Does anyone have success with the new BMK and PMK salts

[skanderbeg]

Ordered a kg of the ''NEW'' PMK (sorry can't say which CAS number because even the chinese vendors don't know which one it is). Tried melting it, didn't work, tried acid hydrolysis didn't work, tried saponifying, didn't work. Asked the vendor he also said he has no idea. Also ordered the ''NEW'' BMK 4-5 months ago (again can't share the CAS number because nobody knows it), did an acid hydrolysis and got 30-35% of the salt to P2P which is terrible, sticking to malonate for now. Please if anyone has a success story with decent yields with both salts please share in detail I will be very grateful!

 

[loadingST]

Yes i tried now all factories new Powders, and they or they dont work or almost no yield, the red oil malonate is best for now.

 

[thegenuinechem]

You did not try ours friends
Check the listings

 

[skanderbeg]

Not with those prices

 

[thegenuinechem]

Yes the sample price
We explain many times why it is high
Lets do again
A sample is to test then if happy make a larger purchase like every buyer always promises to do but what happens usually?
They buy cheap and disappear
You also paying for customs clearance no shipping problem too
I hope you are all able to see the difference in quality of our pmk bmk compare to all the "new" products
We are here to help if anyone has question please message
Thankyou friends

 

[Berlin777]

Got around 50% from „new PMK”, was dirty as fuck, but now some new oil showed up, gonna try it soon. Also got BMK, it worked but haven’t checked the yield yet, the oil is very dark, 5449 was giving cleaner oil.

 

[G.Patton]

Don't buy it in case there is no CAS. Sounds like a bullshit from vendor side. It isn't possible to sell substance without knowledge of its composition.

 

[skanderbeg]

They label both PMK and BMK as CAS 718-08-1 but when I asked them what is the actual CAS they said they aren't the CAS mentioned, they were ''NEW BMK AND PMK which CAS they didn't know of''

 

[thegenuinechem]

They are labelling it with every bmk and pmk cas that ever existed when the products are not any of these cas not even close
Please everyone do not be fooled do not buy our product if you feel its too expensive but please do not waste your time money and most important your safety avoid these other products

 

[Mrnewbieuk]

Iv just received some
New bmk. It’s like a yellow / brown colour and doesn’t work at all? What is red oil malonate that was mentioned? Is there a sythesis on the forum for this to p2p? Any help will
Be appreciated thank you

 

[William D.]

Easy P2P synthesis from Diethyl(phenylacetyl)malonate

Diethyl(phenylacetyl)malonate Hydrolysis to BMK and PAA (phenylacetone and phenylacetic acid). https://bbgate.com/threads/1-phenyl-2-propanone-p2p-synthesis-from-diethyl-phenylacetyl-malonate.1646/

bbgate.com

 

[William D.]

Yellow powder may require the use of orthophosphoric acid (without the use of sodium hydroxide) and for a longer time at high temperature (more than 100 *C). Orthophosphoric acid should be 85%+. But it is better to know the CAS number of the substance.

 

[Mrnewbieuk]

Okay thanks for the info. Could hcl acid do the same thing ? The cas number of the bmk is the same as the old bmk. but it’s yellow this time and has a really strong smell.

 

[Berlin777]

You didn't get any oil or what exactly happened?
I've boiled for 4h in HCl 36% and I got some oil but still not fully tested, tomorrow I'm cooking more and gonna distill to see the yield

 

[Mrnewbieuk]

Nice bro keep us posted on how you get on tomorrow. So basically when you add the foric acid and formide the oil wasn’t splitting. It was just one big mixture of red mess 143 degrees for 4hr. Maybe that’s too much heat or something

 

[Berlin777]

How your P2P turned out?

 

[Blammo]

Would be great if someone asked the vendors with these new precursors if they have a diagram of the structure. I'm sure some smart people here could at least name it.