A novel idea in regards to avoiding laboratory detection.

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

Someone private messaged me the other day asking me about ways to eliminate the inevitable smells associated with clandestine chemical laboratories. As anyone with experience knows, smells produced during chemical reactions can range from distinctive to downright euthanasia. I went through the list of common methods, like the old hose down the toilet, a water curtain set-up, releasing the fumes out of the chimney to obfuscated the origin etc, then I opened about the potential efficacy of a novel idea I have never seen in practice. Low and behold a product came across my screen in an Amazon add on social media that I had never seen before and here it is for your consideration. A ceramic catalytic combuster. This is for a wood burning stove and uses the heat produced by it to heat the catalyst, but I think a 6" stove burner element strapped to the front would work very well. With this in your output pipe (and the burner element)I believe it would toast just about any smell, and the catalyst, burner and a rheostat to control the temperature should be under $200 USD brand new( and a burner and stove knob could be free for many of us). I just thought I would present the idea and open a dialogue to discuss the potential.

Here's a link to the product on Amazon Protalwell Wood Stove Catalytic Combustor, 6" Round Ceramic Catalytic Combustor Replacement for Wood Stoves https://a.co/d/as9TCeq

 

[Rabidreject]

Surely activated carbon filter? like for growing weed/ that’s what iv seen work…in front of my eyes at home f/e. Probably ahotty but hey ho, I can’t smell anything and iv not had any mentions from my neighbours! Not when I was growing weed or when I do syntheses lol

 

[Rabidreject]

It is cool though but also surely, they would need to be warm reactions for it to activate? I’m doing a load of ice cold reactions at the mo….would it work for that? Or do u mean heat it seperatelay…

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

Yeah, you would have to heat it seperately. I think I meantioned a stove burner on the face might work

 

[Rabidreject]

Oh yeh I see sorry. My bad. Pretty cool.
Isn’t it essentially just the same way activated carbon filters work though? I assume the shape of the holes trap the smells? Pretty cool either way.
I guess with charcoal filters if anyone sees it, it can really only be dodgy, in one way or another (I suppose unless you live in a country where you are allowed to grow your own weed (where as no one would know what the above item is!)

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

No. -ctuivated carbon filters work on the principle that carbon has a lot of surface are to trap bad smells, but it wont stop vapors from poisoning you. This is a catalytic converter like your car has, it uses high heat to break down gaseous acids bases irritants ect, and as a side note it eliminates odors by exposing them to high heat. Id be surprised if a carbon filter would sustain being gassed by hcl for very long

 

[mycelium]

I live where it is legal, and people still use the carbon filters, so their house doesn't smell like weed, so WVERYONE doesn't know they are growing, that can also invite problems , and we had someone stay with us during harvest one time and she left because there was a lot of weed drying everywhere in the house

 

[amieri]

Two boxes and some spray foam?

 

[Chemtrail]

A veil cover that allows air ventilation

Activate charcoal (absorb pollution and fumes)

Avoid acquaintances and strangers from having any sort of information knowledge of such a clandestine lab

Do not have your laboratory supplies nor lab chemicals no drugs shipped via parcel mail to the same address that you do your lab cooking

Night time

Invest in a fume hood

Don't have a reason for law enforcement to be knocking on the door of the place where you have your laboratory

 

[amieri]

One of the hardest lessons I've ever learned."dont make the mistake thinking yours is the first snakeless crew .the world don't give a f*ck about your life or what you're going through "

 

[mewnmewamine]

Would be funny to see if you could just use a cat converter from a car x3
Actually thats not a bad idea
Maybe worth a shot..?

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

I'm sure it would work if you can get the cats up to temperature. That's the whole trick, in your car the exhaust heats it up to a pretty high temperature. I've heard of people smashing the catalyst and using it in reaction, platinum and pallidium.

 

[mewnmewamine]

Yeah ive used them as is with some vapour phase stuff works great just use a heating strip to get it up 2 temp

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

We are basically just leading our fumes into a DIY furnace chimney here, no? One could easily set up a succession of various traps to lead and scrub fumes through. Down the drain. Buckets of kitty litter. Other tubes of filter charcoal and what not. High temp is a less popular choice (and one of the better options if you can do it, I think) It would be best to destroy as much 'evidence' as possible on the way out before you try to clean and obscure it before it is dispersed back into the world.

 

[mewnmewamine]

couldnt you also lead the gases into the air intake of a bunsen? Should also work obviously smaller scale though

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

This is the right idea. IDK if a bunsen would burn hot enough? You want those ridiculously high industrial temps.

 

[mewnmewamine]

You arent gonna get much hotter with this thingy because you're going to have to heat it separately.........probably with a bunsen....

Also look up the temp of a gas flame it is definitely higher than the decomp temp of all possible products in any synthesis really.

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

I'd say its more about contacting the most surface area, a flame wouldn't be that efficient, but if you had some sort of hot metal screen to blow the air through, ike a catalytic converter has...Setting up to run it down your drain pipe, pushed past the water trap has been the popular way since the 80's. I've known people who go to a hotel and make meth at at the hotel, usinf this method and in thier mind it's safer because thety aren't at home, . I can see benefits of it, but Depending on your situation it may not be any safer. I've caught people cooking meth in a hotel before. People I didn't know. They were lucky it was me who caught them because I acted like I didn't see or smell anything someone else might have turned them in. Matter of fact, its a local hotel and it has been modified to have a secret room where they make meth steadily

 

[Chemtrail]

Speaking of the devil, just made a post on the legal section with this attachment..

This book is all about avoid lab detection !

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