Question Brown methylone crystals (trouble)

[antrax]

I have crystallized the bk-MDMA crystals, then I have recrystallized it with dionized water (to make it purer) and it still has a brown color (I guess due to impurities) and the crystals smell like methylamine, my goal is for the crystals to be transparent in color .

 

[BitcoinScam]

I saw your thread on how to make methylone, it looks very nice, and now suddenly you can't make it, why? wow

 

[antrax]

I have already synthesized methylone several times successfully,
(I tested it with an anti-drug kit and it was positive) but I get impure crystals, the methylone HCl (powder) before crystallizing if I get it white and it shines.

 

[Acidosis]

It is clear that you failed in the synthesis and did not clean the free base well. When you separate the free base from the water layer, you have to mix the already separated layer of base with plenty of water, your free base. This may take several washes. You will know that the free base is clean when it no longer gives off any methylamine odor and you check that the pH of the cleaning water gives you a neutral pH 5, then you will have a base free of impurities from traces of methylamine and you will be able to obtain completely transparent crystals.

 

[antrax]

I washed the freebase 3 times with distilled water, there is no way to remove the methylamine odor, I didn't do the pH thing.

 

[BitcoinScam]

I can answer you. so from what I know, the precursor, i.e. 2b34m, must be clean, then 1 by 2 there must be a very good bath after amination in water and baking soda, water alone does not cleanse the product of methylamine after souring, there cannot be excess acid and the freebase solution cannot be heated, it must be kept in an ice-cold bath all the time. after 4, hcl powder must be pure white, if it has a different color - yellow or brown - there are impurities. If we already have pure fine methylone hcl powder, then we can crystallize it

 

[antrax]

Minute 0:44, as you can see the color of the 4-MMC crystals is orange, and I do not believe that such a large-scale laboratory synthesizes impure products.

 

[BitcoinScam]

this lab is no 4mmc but 4cmc and yes they made dirty product because then no wash freebase good and get like this dirty shits i was see i much busted lab in poland but they made a lot of dirty product...

this is lab 3cmc also was busted this month

 

[antrax]

Are the white trays that appear in the video used to crystallize or recrystallize the drugs?
Why do they use fans, what is their function?
what solvent is that? Why did it become like black, I think it is colorless but when it came into contact with the drug it changed its color.
Thank you!!

 

[BitcoinScam]

what function do fans perform haha after all, they work with chemicals and ventilation in the lab is essential. Plastin trays are used for crystallization using either water with alcohol or acetone. They don't acidify with acetone + hcl and use a filter because it takes too much time, they make hcl acid and water and it crystallizes right away

 

[antrax]

Why Poland is the main synthesizer of these drugs? I have never seen videos of raids from another country in the European Union with so many bath salts seized.

 

[BitcoinScam]

because in poland easy u buy all chemicals and a lot people eat 3cmc 4cmc now 4mmc u dont found

 

[BitcoinScam]

the same way u can made bk mdma but u need use dcm or toulen and u can use the hcl and water and later made crystal

 

[antrax]

I use deionized water for the crystallization/recrystallization of bk-MDMA, 3ml of deionized water for each gram of bk-MDMA, I put the bk-MDMA together with the deionized water in a small beaker, then I boil water and put said boiling water in a larger beaker and then I take the small beaker that contains the deionized water & bk-MDMA and I put said small beaker in the large beaker (without water from the large beaker entering the small beaker) and then I stir it with a stick until The bk-MDMA is dissolved correctly and then I put the dissolved liquid of bk-MDMA in a small plastic jar and leave it in the open air until crystals form in 48-72 hours until the crystals form correctly.
Most of the time there is no liquid left in the plastic jar, only dry crystals, but then I don't know how to wash these crystals, I think I should wash them with deionized water, and then filter the deionized water from the crystals and then dry said crystals.
Thank you!!

 

[antrax]

Why don't they synthesize 4-MMC anymore?

 

[BitcoinScam]

wash u can only with aceton no water haha metylone and water mix together but acetone no mix with metylone haha

 

[BitcoinScam]

because then dont know how to made 4mmc and they made shit cmc

 

[antrax]

After recrystallization of bk-MDMA, once the crystals are dry, should I wash them with acetone?

 

[antrax]

They seem like professionals, no idea, since they must make a lot of money and they can hire good chemists.

 

[BitcoinScam]

like was say u need have pure 2b34m no brown white next u need wash freebase good this all

 

[antrax]

but how do i have pure CAS 52190-28-0?